with Jonathan Goodman, Ren Jones, and Amber Reynolds

Forget becoming an influencer.

This podcast is for people searching for a simpler way to make more money, help more people, and have more freedom. 

No matter who you are and no matter what you sell, your customer is a human. And yet, marketing these days feels so (in)human. 

Filled with frameworks, entertaining stories, and admittedly bad-Dad jokes, The Obvious Choice is a much-needed recalibration and, at times, a refreshing slap for a business generation that’s lost its way.

New episodes ship out Mondays and Wednesdays, along with short, business hotseats every Friday.